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Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby yo_quiero_fumar » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:59 pm

So, what do you call it? Whats the difference? I want the public's opinion.
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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby newpower » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:06 pm

Grilling is what you do with steaks, burgers, and chicken pieces. BBQ is for ribs, butts, and brisket.
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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby yo_quiero_fumar » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:52 pm

newpower wrote:Grilling is what you do with steaks, burgers, and chicken pieces. BBQ is for ribs, butts, and brisket.

Great definition! Lets get some more input.
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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby lardog » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:03 pm

Grilling is hot and fast.
Barbecuing is low and slow.

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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby Marty » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:26 pm

lardog wrote:Grilling is hot and fast.
Barbecuing is low and slow.

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Nothing can be added to this. Except where is the transition temperature? John Seems to like to push things up a bit hither than traditional.
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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby pkinetics » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:55 pm

In the USA to grill is to cook in this manner quickly, while barbecue is typically a much slower method utilizing less heat than grilling, attended to over an extended period of several hours.


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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby lardog » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:56 pm

I guess that transition temperature between the two would be considered roasting which is around 300 to 350. ;-)

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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby yo_quiero_fumar » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:02 pm

Now where did the term BBQ regarding a particular flavor come into play? For example, why is it BBQ sauce and not Grilling sauce?
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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby pkinetics » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:19 pm

BBQ - Sauce
Grilling - Marinades
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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby Marty » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:51 pm

pkinetics wrote:BBQ - Sauce
Grilling - Marinades


Or BBQ sauce at the end of a grill and let it burn a little.
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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby lardog » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:12 pm

I think the difference is just marketing. I've seen both "BBQ" and "grilling" sauces at the store. Don't see a difference.

Real good barbecue doesn't need sauce. It just drowns out the natural flavor of the meat and rub.



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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby DeanCHS1980 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:00 pm

I would highly recommend watching the BBQ Song on YouTube. Very entertaining and informative. The end of the video addresses this issue, thus I define. . .

BBQ is meat! It is not a verb.

Grilling is what you do to do meat to make tasty bbq! ;)
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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby JMSetzler » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:59 pm

Grilling doesn't seem to have a broad definition. Most people tend to agree that grilling means cooking meat over direct fire, which is usually considered hot and fast.

Barbecue is where the variations come into play. I hear a lot of my friends in the New England states refer to "The Barbecue" as the device on which they are cooking. They cook their meat on "The Barbecue." They just don't refer to it as a grill. I also hear this used a lot from my friends in Australia and the UK.

Those of use here in the US who are serious about "Barbecue" tend to use it as a term to describe how our meat was cooked in an adjective form such as barbecued pork or beef. We are describing our low and slow process of cooking the meat over lower heat with added smoke. We use grills and smokers to produce our barbecue rather than a 'barbecue'.

As far as low and slow vs hot and fast is concerned, you guys can argue about that all you want. I know there is a huge faction of barbecue cooks who swear by 225° on their thermometers, which is fine. 225° produces excellent barbecue and I have cooked a ton of meat at that temp myself. Through a lot of experimentation with pork butts and brisket, I can't tell much difference between meat cooked at 225° and 300°. Some of you may be aware that I recently cooked a boston butt at 350+°, which also turned out very well. I saw some minor variations in that particular meat that I'm not quite ready to discuss until I can try it again.

So, if I had to draw the line between what is low and slow and what is hot and fast, I'd probably put the mark somewhere between 300-325°Anything below 325° would be considered low and slow while anything above 300° would be considered hot and fast. Yes, there is a 25° overlap there that I would consider some sort of no-man's land of sorts.

In my humble redneck southern US opinion, barbecue is all about experimentation. Don't even bother discussing the ramifications of low and slow vs hot and fast until you have 5 or 6 cooks in each realm under your belt! You can't put your money where your mouth is until you have tried it!

Don't let terms and debates like this separate you from what YOU believe each of them to be :)
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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby Toe » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:33 am

Meathead's got a good page on this: Barbecue Defined

A somewhat related page on his site: The Thermodynamics of Cooking
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Re: Grilling or Barbecue?

Postby yo_quiero_fumar » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:13 pm

Toe wrote:Meathead's got a good page on this: Barbecue Defined

A somewhat related page on his site: The Thermodynamics of Cooking

Meathead's explanation is one I agree with. I feel that all manner of cooking over a fire is Barbecue, while low and slow and hot and fast, etc. are just styles of barbecue. Despite adding the 'bbq' flavor, I will not ever feel that food cooked in a crock-pot or in a gas or electric oven can be considered true barbecue. Electric and LP smokers aside. However, I'm often wrong.
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