Spider/ ceramic and Canada

[Ross]

the pictures are really worth a thousand words. thanks for taking the time to post them!

side question, when you're doing a low and slow and maybe smoking too, it seems like quite a process to dismantle the stacks and layers of everything to get to the firebox so the charcoal can be tended and wood can be added. any good strategies there?

Prior to placing the heat diffuser, have the amount of charcoal necessary for the cook (fill the firebox up good and full), add the wood chunks, then place the heat difuser in place, put your food on and close up your vents all but a crack or so, and there really shouldn't be any reason to open the lid or tend the fire for the rest of the cook, other than to possibly mop or spray the meat cooking.

[Grillzy]

Great service- bracket is on its way.

[amongu]

Hi,
I have been lurking around this thread.... I just ordered my vision classic from costco today. Very interested to know if your satisfied with the stone & bracket? I contacted vision & they quoted me $69.99 with delivery to Canada--- Anyone have a better/economical solution? Thanks Edit: sorry just noticed you ordered the bracket last friday- i would guess it's not to you yet.

[Ross]

Hello, amungu,

I don't own either, but I am leaning towards a Kamado Joe Heat deflector. I don't know it's availability on Canada, but it seems to me someone here said it was about $90 delivered.


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[Grillzy]

I have used the stone 5 times now just on the bottom grate and works great as a heat diffuser. Have yet to cook on it. Took seasoning very well and quick. Its very heavy!

[Ross]

That's good. It's a very nice looking stone, I have to say.

[limulus]

I have used my Vision Volcano Stone quite a few times as a diffuser. It is a quality stone. The bracket/spider that came with it is not a nice as the ceramicgrillstore.com model looks, but the stone is nice. I also have a 16" Old Stone Oven pizza stone that I cook my pizzas on (great stone, but not cheap). I use the Vision stone to diffuse and place the pizza stone on the regular Vision rack. I also bought a cheap Brinkman 13" stone at Home Depot and cut it in half with a tile cutter. I use that when I want an indirect zone.
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[Grillzy]

Used the bracket tonight for the first time. Its was great ! Nice to be able to use both levels of racks= twice the cooking space. Amazing moose roast with mixed potato, onion, celery, carrot, red pepper in cast iron pan.
Grillzy

[BigPete]

I am new to kamado grilling in general but I have the adjustable rig spider combo on the way. When doing pizza can I just use the drip pan as a deflector and the stone for a pizza stone? Or is it not able to hold up to the high heat of a pizza cook? Also, that little circle ceramic piece that came with the vision classic, does that just go on the bottom of the firebox?

[DerHusker]

I am new to kamado grilling in general but I have the adjustable rig spider combo on the way. When doing pizza can I just use the drip pan as a deflector and the stone for a pizza stone? Or is it not able to hold up to the high heat of a pizza cook? Also, that little circle ceramic piece that came with the vision classic, does that just go on the bottom of the firebox?

You're going to love the adjustable rig. I use mine all the time.

I don't use my drip pan for pizza as I bought three different stones from the Ceramic Grill Store (The 13" & 16" round and the 13' x 17" oval) and use one in the lowest position and one on the top. The drip pan may hold up but if you don't have a second stone then I'd use a cheap pizza pan i lieu of the drip pan. My $.02

The little ceramic piece goes in he bottom of the kamado, under the fire bowl and directly under the cast iron grate. It helps with hot coals that fall thru the grate.

[BigPete]

Awesome thanks a lot. And the gap in the stone doesn't need to be adjusted to line up with any particular place correct? It's just for expansion? Do you use the 13x7 as deflector pretty consistently when slow cooking ?

[DerHusker]

Awesome thanks a lot. And the gap in the stone doesn't need to be adjusted to line up with any particular place correct? It's just for expansion? Do you use the 13x7 as deflector pretty consistently when slow cooking ?

Not sure what you mean by "gap in the stone"? Do you mean the gap around the stone between it and the fire bowl?

I use my 13 x 17 stone for all my low & slow cooks as I have the 13 x 17 foil drip maker ring . I also use it when making pizza. I pretty much use my 13" round only for chicken.

[BigPete]

Disregard the gap thing I figured it out. Ok so it looks like ill need the 13x17 also. Will low and slow work with just the 13" deflector? Or would the pieces on the side of the grates get burnt pretty bad?

[DerHusker]

Disregard the gap thing I figured it out. Ok so it looks like ill need the 13x17 also. Will low and slow work with just the 13" deflector? Or would the pieces on the side of the grates get burnt pretty bad?

I've always used the 13 x 17 stone so I don't have any first hand experience with that but if you had the fire/temp under control I think you'd be OK. I'd try it with the 13" and pork butt and see how it does.

[Grillzy]

My thoughts on the lava stone after much use. It works great as a heat diffector but no good for cooking on. Its far too porus to cook on and clean. I don't ever cook on it only did a few times. It has cracked in one spot to the center and hope it stays that way. If I were to do it over I'd buy a cast iron pan and bend some brackets. Cast will last for ever. I'd buy a ceramic stone or cast iron to cook on. I am a huge fan of cast iron cookwear in the stove on the stove or on the grill. Lodge makes great stuff.